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Friday August 14, 2020 at 11:00 AM New York (EST)

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Unknown Speaker 0:02
My name is Karen Judd Smith. I think most of you who are here not know that, and again, it’s my privilege to moderate the Alliance meeting today, for the 14th of August. Now, collectively, I am surprised maybe they

Unknown Speaker 0:20
maybe the other meeting had ended up in a different spot. But

Unknown Speaker 0:25
collectively, we are a group of social change leaders and we work in diverse fields and different social, you know, different geographical regions. I was expecting that Michael O’Connell would be coming in today from Australia. Jennifer gray is also going to be coming in from the Governor’s Office of Community initiatives in I think Maryland. Lowe, Adam Schiff at amature is calling in from Ethiopia if she can come in Janet’s is from Canada, Lloyd coming in from, I think across the river in Brooklyn. Maybe in a gorgey is somewhere in New York. So Hi, there, you are. Not a problem.

Unknown Speaker 1:21

Unknown Speaker 1:22
Yeah. So the premise of the Alliance’s that we are better together and we sit, you know, by supporting, partnering, even providing one another advice, connection and input. So, let’s get started with our agenda by inviting each one in the room and to introduce yourself to identify the organization that you’re working with, if you had it had one or if you’re an individual expert, your area of expertise, what your current focus is, and then I was thinking to have, you know, each person just in your two minutes introduction, self introduction to add or to identify how COVID might have changed either one thing about how you work, or what you are doing now because of COVID that you weren’t doing before, just so that we can hear a little bit from one another. So, I am going to, I’ll just call upon people around the room and I hope you don’t mind Karen that I’m going to call upon you to introduce yourself because it’s nice to actually be able to identify people and faces and what they’re doing. So your take home. Thank you so much. Good morning. I’m Karen as Adrian. I’m a retired New York City Police Department supervisor, but I’m here representing the international Police Association. And I believe you may know Tony Mach, who used to be a part of the group and he forwarded the link to To me, and we have I believe we have observer status at the UN. And so they’ve asked me because I live in New York and Brooklyn, actually, I have nice close proximity to the actual un building. So they’ve asked me to be the point person for that for the IPA. And

Unknown Speaker 3:24
honestly, to be honest, we’ve had, we haven’t had much traction there. So we’re just sort of casting around seeking to find our little niche. And this and with the COVID, we have not been able to meet physically, you know, our local chapter has not met since I guess since March or February. So we’re just rather dormant right now.

Unknown Speaker 3:53
Invite them so much for having me here. Thank you. Invite them to this meeting. And then you can meet here while you’re while you’re here. That’s an idea. Thank you. Funny

Unknown Speaker 4:05
thrower. Okay. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. My name is defining while normal by leaving Dayton, Ohio, and I have a present center for innovative, pragmatic government initiative. We operate out in Nigeria. And our focus right now is on gender based violence. And really, that’s what we’re working on and how the COVID-19 has changed or impacted me. I actually, I think it has helped everyone to learn one or two things about technology. Also about walking together without having a physical meeting, though, which is pretty much a little bit less expensive. Because to put together a fiscal meeting is kind of cumbersome So it has increased the rate of AAC, and communication because you can just travel to be able to pick up your phone and send it text and do certain things visually that you normally wouldn’t be able to do prior to coffee, because you’re planning towards episkopi. Now you can just jump into Google meat or any other way to get things done. So that’s how it could be the practicals, basically.

Unknown Speaker 5:32
Thank you. Yeah, we’re all becoming a tech nerds, huh?

Unknown Speaker 5:40
Everybody can go on in sorry to come in and be late. My name is gorgeou. dama is a lawyer by profession. I’m originally from the United Kingdom of mixed heritage, Nigeria and Kiba. Um, I’m going to actually represent myself here. As I say, I’m a lawyer. I’m also a national security analyst. I did in cyber security. I recently posted an event at the UN it was on. I’ll give it a title building back better risk informed COVID recovering rehabilitation, and strengthening resilience to climate change related disasters in Africa and the Caribbean. Obviously, I focus on Africa and the Caribbean because I feel both legions tend to be left behind and I was fortunate enough it was sponsored by the missions of Nigeria, Belize, Cuba, Egypt, Germany, Morocco, St. Vincent and the Grenadines and the Secretary General’s office and also Turkey. The events we focus on mainly on how Africa the African continent and the Caribbean could build back resilient communities post climate change, related disasters and water. And when I wrote the concept notes one and a half years ago, obviously not thing that COVID will impact the whole world. So we had to include COVID in it. If I may quotes, which I think is very, very important right now, what the world is going through. Archbishop Desmond Tutu, he says, I quote, my humanity is caught up, it is inextricably bound up in yours. We belong in a bundle of life. We say a person is a person through other persons, in short the interconnectedness of mankind and of quotes.

Unknown Speaker 7:58
What I’m trying to say is

Unknown Speaker 8:01
The covid 19 has shown us that although were physically apart, we are indeed still interconnected. This is the first time I’ve done a virtual event. So we usually hosted events, high level events of the UN. So to me, it was an experience sort of having meetings with diplomats in the Secretary General’s office, virtual meetings, you know, you’ll, you’ll see people that were seeing each other here. And you’re literally planning an event because it wasn’t possible for us to have the event to be physically in the UN. The only person who’s in the UN is a secretary general, the Deputy Secretary General, and the PGA and I was fortunate enough the current or the outgoing PJ is also the Nigerian ambassador to the UN who’s on a very great job Mohammed tijjani Bundy. So with the help of the Nigerian mission, and you Germany who were the main sponsors and Egypt and UN Foundation, we were able to put together a virtual meeting. Now I’m not I’m not a techno, I’m not tech savvy in this sense. So, UN Foundation did a marvelous job sort of, to moderate a high level panel and I’m not really technical, they’ve had to sort of be in my ear and guided me, you know, touch that button. Of course, she was, to me an amazing experience because they had to sort of build up the build me off of my confidence to know I could do it. Because I will sink in. I’m used to being in front of a mic and the camera people are yelling at me, but to actually be isolated. You know, I had one person in the room and the person was told she could not come near me. She has to be a few miles away and she has a mouse and Actually, I’m actually in Basking Ridge, New Jersey, I’m enable President Trump. So that actually put me in a separate building. Because we didn’t want any destruction. We didn’t want the lights to go off. And nobody had to be near me. I had to be in complete lockdown. So that the show Go ahead. So to me, it was a very amazing and daunting experience, but thank God we made it.

Unknown Speaker 10:31
It went smoothly, nothing went wrong, you know, and I was able to touch the right buttons, you know, so

Unknown Speaker 10:40
I think really basically, the covance pandemic has taught me this interconnectedness that although we’re on a different part, you know, I’m in New Jersey in Basking Ridge. All the ambassadors are different parts. They’re all in New York in their homes or you know, general’s office. In the building, the ambassador PJ he’s in the building, but we were able to connect and keep it flowing. You know, keep it going, you know, as my daughter says, you know, keep it going Mommy, you know, it’s to me, it was a, it was an amazing experience, you know, and I’m really so glad and honored to be able to take impulse in it. And I’d also like to thank Karen, I’ve known you for quite some time. You know, and I thank you for your leadership, you know, in keeping this group together and keeping basically keeping the fire burning. You know, I remember how we started off to meet in a room in the church and, you know, so that’s basically it.

Unknown Speaker 11:42
Yeah, and then and then I came to California and then things quieted down in New York, but we kept it going actually, online for quite some time now because out of necessity, so we were bleeding edge of All of this, but anyway, congratulations gorgey. And, and I know how I am sure that you were really nervous about all of the technology, because because you know that everything was depending on you follow through through one, one person and internet connection. And yes, yeah. So anyway, congratulations. But that was obviously amazing. And especially

Unknown Speaker 12:31
when you had to be especially when, when the button went off from there, sort of send me a message because I had my cell phone next to me. We won’t know what’s on group and they were texting me and I was told to keep an eye on the cell phone so I know when I’m on. Then they suddenly go in and said, Okay, go remove it and you’re like,

Unknown Speaker 12:52
you stop and realize why they’re usually so many texts involved in the use of sound. noise sound, the video the connection, whatever. Anyway, so, Jay, thank you very much. You got it

Unknown Speaker 13:09
now. Thank you, Karen. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker 13:12
Yes, I hope you hope you can hear me okay. Yes, yes. Okay. I am j Albany’s I Well, I am here on behalf of the NGO criminologists without borders, which is a research oriented group that develops the empirical literature from around the world on the theme of each year’s un Crime Commission meeting until this year, meets every year in May in Vienna, which is the home of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, which is the main branch of UN efforts in crime prevention and criminal justice, and it’s organized around a different theme each year this year. The theme was around migrant smuggling. I don’t No, the meeting was canceled this year due to COVID. And we’ll see if the theme changes or what happens for next year.

Unknown Speaker 14:10
Interesting stuff.

Unknown Speaker 14:12
I know, we’re all kind of in a similar position where starting, at least for me, I’m located in the US. I’m about 20 miles outside of Washington, DC. The world pretty much closed for us in mid March. And it’s a bit a bit, so it’s a bit crazy time. So we’re all kind of isolated, except for the flat screens that we’re staring at all the time. It’s really kind of an odd circumstance. I teach at Virginia Commonwealth University. And there the university is reopening, you know, in a week with about a third of the students in person, a third hybrid, and a third completely online. And you could imagine The, you know, I just, you know, thank God, I’m not a university administrator because, you know, you try to control COVID and dormitories. And I mean, it’s just you know, it’s just an impossible task. But and of course, every single conference, if every organization I’m associated with has canceled its meeting for this year. It began in March with canceled meetings, and it just says, gone all the way through the end of the year. And I guess we’re all kind of hoping that 2021 brings some magic and I guess the magic is going to be a vaccine that will help to open up the world again. I didn’t realize how much I missed travel until all of a sudden, you know, you really can’t go anywhere. But anyway, there still are some good things happening. I’ll mention three of them quickly. One, because we have some folks here with experience in Nigeria. That was a weapon. which I’m sure has been recorded this morning from un ODC. In Nigeria, they just published within the last couple of weeks a new statistical report that surveyed Nigerians about the extent of corruption, things like did you have to pay a bribe? You know, in the past year to, to get a license or a permit or for we use solicited all these kinds of questions. And they did a similar survey back about three years ago. So this was the report on that. But what they did, which was interesting, this whole web, it’s on YouTube and Facebook and other things, but is they made an animated video, it’s a five or 10 minute video that essentially presents the findings of the report in a conversation among animated characters. So it’s a it’s quite clever. And I’m sure they plan to show it around. But anyway, it shows report has some good news in it, it’s got some bad news in it, as you could imagine, because we’re talking about corruption, which is not a problem that that goes away easily. So

Unknown Speaker 17:12
anyway, I was just very impressed that

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that not only did the report still come out, but they came up with a very clever way to disseminate it, you know, to a broad audience who just, you know, can’t go to any meeting to actually be there. So anyway, I’m so I’m just highlighting that. If you Google, un ODC, Nigeria, you’ll probably come up with with the, with the report. And second thing I spent some time as Michael O’Connell has, and I’m going to let him talk about it with the coalition of faith based organizations has been doing a lot of justice oriented webinars. Michael’s hosting one in organizing one for October. I’m doing one in September minus on ethics. Michael can tell you about his. And they just did one last week on criminal justice reform. And if you Google, but I don’t know what the what the website is, but there is a website for everything. Find it. When I find it, I’ll put it in the chat

Unknown Speaker 18:28
in the chat. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 18:30
Okay. And last thing of my three points.

Unknown Speaker 18:35
One of my primary areas of interest is organized crime. And a few of us I mean, with a colleague in the UK and a colleague in the Netherlands is organizing a 24 hour conference on organized crime. As you all know, the problem with zoom meetings and Michael is our case exam. But is that the timezone thing is just brutal. And when you when you try to organize meetings across continents, for example, there is no Prime Time for a meeting in North America that matches up with Australia or really the whole Eastern Asia and, and with Europe and so So anyway, so we’re doing a 24 hour conference. I will post the link to it once I find it and the what we’re doing is running in 24 consecutive hours, these hour and 15 minutes sessions on global organized crime. So some will be in your primetime timezone others will not you know, you can stay up late if you have to. Michael is very good at that. or whatever, whatever it takes so, so we’re organizing that now and we have the solicitation out for calls for proposals until September 7, but I will say I will post the link in the chat. So I wanted to mention the Nigeria corruption report, the faith based organization webinars and the organized crime conference, the conference itself will occur over 24 hours on November 10. November 11, if you’re in the Pacific, so I think that’s does it for me. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker 20:25
Hey, fantastic. J. Yeah. So COVID hasn’t changed your life much at all? Hmm.

Unknown Speaker 20:33
It’s all about being on screen.

Unknown Speaker 20:37
So Michael, you are invited to unmute yourself and introduce yourself, your organization. And then we added the additional question for you to answer is how has COVID changed the way you are doing some of your work or how has it changed your life

Unknown Speaker 21:03
Sorry, that’s the is that audible now? Yes,

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that’s all good.

Unknown Speaker 21:08
Very good. I’ve got my computers on the meeting that’s running at the moment about the working group. I was always here on my telephone. I’ve not done this before. So it literally is good morning to all of you. I think it’s about 1am there, or something similar here in South Australia. And Jay was correct. It is very difficult to try and find a time that appeases everyone. And he’s getting very much used to see me in the early hours of the morning holding a glass of red wine. Well,

Unknown Speaker 21:49
it’s a bit early to get started.

Unknown Speaker 21:54
Somebody gets a bit light

Unknown Speaker 21:57
anyway, on a serious note, I I am associated with the NGO Alliance was sort of wearing multiple hats. I actually originally joined this group in New York as a as a private person because the world Society of victimology of which I’m now the Secretary General, was represented by other people at that point in time. But now I am the representative for the world Society of victimology as the Secretary General, and I still involve myself in activities. Separate to that for other reasons. I’m currently a vice president and the other part of the Alliance which is based in in Vienna, and I began my involvement with that group, initially on their understanding that we actually have one Alliance and we were working towards a partnership and I say that maybe no offense to anyone but the end result is I find myself on two committees now, through lots of lots of meetings and are always In northern hemisphere time, and not always that an ungodly hour, the morning. And that said, My background is in victimology. I am not a criminologist. I’m a practitioner. I was the commissioner for victims rights in South Australia for more than a decade. And that position is quite unique. In fact, it with the console constellation of the powers of consolidation of powers of that office, it’s the only office in the world to have all of those functions grouped into one individual. So it was a wonderful experience. And, and I’m now in retirement. I also am part of a steering committee for the faith based organizations along side J. And, and we’ve been involved as he mentioned, a number of webinars and I’m currently organizing a webinar for October the fifth Which is going to be on restorative justice victim assistance. And they’ll be most probably one speaker, talking about the connection between all those things and and faith based organizations. And we’re still working through the practicalities of how that will happen. And just to address the issue that Jay raised the coalition of firefights. tokenized sessions began about 18 months or so ago, with a proposal to try and engage NGO organizations together to look at how we could operate particularly with the UN ODC which had discovered an alliance or rediscovered, I should say, its alliance with faith based organizations and within the UN structure, there’s actually a number of groups that are working To improve the relationships and find common ground and how the UN works for faith based organizations, which when one thinks about it makes a lot of sense, although they were very closely linked in early years to colonization and conversion, and all those sorts of things these days, often it’s faith, faith based organizations that are actually delivering very practical help at grassroots level, and the UN and other agencies rely very much on them and the position that they occupy in the community.

Unknown Speaker 25:37
In terms of COVID-19, all I can really tell you is that I would normally travel once or twice a year overseas and give one or two lectures as a consequence of COVID-19 and the introduction of zoom, web meeting, Skype, Facebook, in real time, but of course I find myself now Giving at least a lecture or participating in a symposium or some other activity every single week, if not, sometimes, in fact, I think, since the last week of June, I haven’t had a week where I haven’t had three or four activities that a web based during that period of time. So, to a certain extent, it’s opened up a whole new world to me, and the realization that you don’t actually have to get on an airplane as I do and travel. I think I went to Bogota. In Colombia, it took me 40 hours to get there to deliver a 40 minute lecture. So I’m 40 hours to get home. I can do it here from my home, and comfort. So welcome, everyone. And thank you very much. And as they say, two things on the local indigenous people I Nina Mani, which means a welcome to those of you who are new and hello and namaste from me, which means that See you later because they never say farewell because the assumption is our paths will always cross sometime in the future. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker 27:12
Thank you, Michael. So, maybe because you you were just also in the working group meeting, I tried to jump in and I didn’t find people there. Could you just give us a quick update on what they’re dealing with at the moment? I think they’re going to come in later on, but sometimes I know that their meetings end up going for a very long time.

Unknown Speaker 27:36
Yes, so at the moment,

Unknown Speaker 27:39
they are having a discussion about some project work that has been done by some of the students, but before that, they went back and reviewed these speakers. And they have discovered that there’s been some overlap. I’m not saying this, other than to be constructive. I’d said much of the early part of the meeting has been concentrating on who’s going to accept responsibility for contacting who, but it does appear that there are some fairly prestigious and and highly regarded speakers from different parts of the world who have indicated some interest in being involved. And the next stage of the draft of the concept note has been circulated and I understand later in the meeting, they will sign off on that.

Unknown Speaker 28:33
Got that and gargy I know you’ve been also very active in the work of the working group. Perhaps you can Yes, yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 28:44
Yeah, I believe is still working on it.

Unknown Speaker 28:48
Well, yes, definitely. And that that work will continue for personal

Unknown Speaker 28:55
to me seems a bit too ambitious because, you know, trying to get people then is a question of

Unknown Speaker 29:02
Exactly how do you represent the regions? And exactly how do you give other NGOs or what I call unknown angels? How do you give them the floor, you have to sort of represent everybody you can’t sort of, you know, shows the well run angels, you have to give voices to other angels who have not had the opportunity. I think, for example, Nigeria, if you’re speaking about violence against women, there’s a high incidence of violence against women of the Muslim women in northern Nigeria. Nigeria is a very complex country, different from different religions. I mean, you can’t just focus on women from one particular region of Nigeria, you have to give voices to other regions of Nigeria and there’s emerging movement which is emerging in Nigeria right now, which is the the Muslim women They’re, they’re wise enough for for long term they’ve been quite suppressed. So I was suggesting you should do a voice to a different organization, you know, give voices to, to Muslim women, they need their voices need to be heard, you have to give them an opportunity. As I say, Nigeria is a very complex country. different dynamics involve different religions, different tribes, and you can’t just focus on one particular tribe. And as I said, I’m of mixed heritage, so nobody can accuse me of being biased. But although I’m not from the northern part of Nigeria, I believe that the voices of Northern women, the house of women, the Fulani women from the north, they should be heard, in my opinion, and I just leave it like that.

Unknown Speaker 30:52
Anyway, it’s a complex issue. I think, just for I think most people here may be coming doesn’t know. But the working group most of the substandard work of the Alliance gets done through the through working groups. And so one formed a few months ago. Yeah. l who has worked with victims issues for many, many years being the special representative of the UN Secretary General on on victims issues and does multi generational research on the impact of trauma in multi generational trauma, things like that. Anyway, so part of what she had wanted to do was to highlight the reality of domestic violence and the increased problem of that during COVID. And so, working group formed, you know, quickly as you know, ideas grow and we always want to reach for the moon. And so they’re grappling with with the challenges of doing that. And I’m not certain that the That the working group has quite yet I pop in and out of the working group. I don’t I don’t say that permanently. I’m not sure that they’re tackling the the technical side of of their endeavors yet, which will be something they’ll have to turn their mind to. I’m a little afraid that they’re going to turn to me to do that. But anyway, we’ll I guess we’ll see what happens there. But you know, oh, gee, you’re going to be able to handle all of that now. Right.

Unknown Speaker 32:32
I’m having trouble hearing you. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 32:38
your day job. Yeah. Anyway, just very quickly, myself. I represent the International Center for religion and diplomacy and the CEO of that nonprofit. He was one of the I think the board members of the coalition of faith based organizations. They are very, you know, active and Dealing with the challenges of violence and AI and associated with identity and the role of religions in all of that.

Unknown Speaker 33:13
So in terms of what my experience has been in COVID,

Unknown Speaker 33:20
in some ways, not a whole lot of difference, because sitting here in California and running the Alliance meetings before or now, you know, kind of the same accepting now that everybody’s on, on on the internet there, there are more and more meetings being handled that way. But one thing that I did end up doing because I’ve been working and defined, you know, as I’ve been, I’ve been working on developing a training program actually for social change leaders. And so I’ve been speaking to people in Syria in Nepal and Pakistan and Nigeria and northern Nigeria and in Lagos. And began via and London and Ohio. And, and just you know getting it’s been a wonderful opportunity just to speak to people and really try to get a sense of, you know, what, what, what are they grappling with? What are they, as, you know, leaders of this small, many times small, as you mentioned, go to their small NGOs and how are they dealing with it or not dealing with it? One of the challenges How do I deal with stakeholders? They’ve got you know, there’s there’s the always the ongoing challenge for nonprofits, to develop funding, you know, to have a clear funding model and stream and pipeline for money coming in, that’s whether you’re large or whether you’re small. that’s a that’s a constant work that is often a challenge for nonprofits. But anyway, one of the things that I did do and so I do want to also throw this out as an option. I kind of stuck my neck out a little bit. As we all do, I started a it’s essentially just one hour a week at the moment, but I might be expanding it more, but it’s live streaming interviews with thought leaders changemakers and looking at what they are doing, what they’ve learned, where they see things going, and what it really means for you know, the larger us or the average person. And sometimes the larger us are just average persons. But anyway, so it’s called exceptional it’s streamed on Twitch TV, which is actually mostly a gaming platform. But it’s it’s a streaming service, but it comes through into exceptional Exceptional TV x minus the E. So the point there is part of what I what I like to do is to give those who are doing quite remarkable things who don’t have a voice anywhere else or can very rarely get a voice or just aren’t heard so much an opportunity through an interview, which then becomes a it gets streamed live, I make them a simple web page that then they can promote easily to their social media so that people can watch them live and or it remains a permanent webpage there’s with the replay of the of the interview. So it’s a way to kind of help people get a little traction, get a little exposure and get their stories out. So if you if any of you happen to know people that you think would be and you could either you know even step up yourselves But I’m happy to do an interview that’s usually done at 10 o’clock Pacific Wednesday mornings, because I try to make that available to people. Sorry, Michael. It’s not really good for an idea know, I always feel bad because I’m originally from Australia. So I always think about Asia and Australia and, and, and yet I end up accommodating America, Europe and ours. Um

Unknown Speaker 37:37
I’m sure I’ve got one of those.

Unknown Speaker 37:40
Oh, here we go.

Unknown Speaker 37:50
So I haven’t forgotten my roots by any means. But when you get down to scheduling you kind of say well Then you go for numbers sorry Michael But anyway, so 10 at 10am Pacific so if anybody would like to you know, either invite themselves or they know somebody who had you know really needs to be heard for example, I interviewed just the other week the young lady who is working in macoco do you know that’s the largest floating slum in in in Lagos Lagos?

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Unknown Speaker 38:28
Yeah, yeah

Unknown Speaker 38:31
Yeah, yeah. Anyway quite

Unknown Speaker 38:35
so that’s anyway that’s exception no changed it’s not take the heat off. I hate these were action things.

Unknown Speaker 38:47
Anyway, I just put it in the it corrected that.

Unknown Speaker 38:53
I’m putting it in again, exceptional TV. That’s That’s the goal. Okay. That’s the plan.

Unknown Speaker 39:01
I, as I said, I create a webpage for people so that they have something that’s it’s kind of pretty neat for them as, as an individual, even if they don’t have their own website, I set it up so that then people can get in touch with those folks. If they’ve got a report or something, I make that available to people, all that sort of stuff. So, yeah, that that’s been my, I guess you’d call it my coded project. And that does feed into and connect with, you know, folks in the Alliance because the Alliance people are often those who are working to affect change. And social change is one of the hottest kinds of change to make nuts not just a digital transformation, but it’s a human transformation, which is complex. Anyway, so that’s that. I think we’ve been around the room. It doesn’t look like we’ve gotten anybody in anyone else in from the working group. So I’m going to jump into some of the updates if I may, and anybody can jump At any time, this is you know, this is just us hanging out in the room around, like we used to hang out around the table in in the church center. Feel free to to, to jump in at any time. But the prime Congress Japan has set a new date for the seventh through the 12th of March in 2021. And Kyoto for the for the crime Congress. I it’ll be interesting to see how many people go there or whether people are going to be so accustomed to zooming in whether they’re going to accommodate a whole lot of Zoomers into the crime Congress and if so, how. So, there are all of those kinds of questions as well so the crime Congress is happening the the the alliance in in Vienna Michael, do you have any more information about what’s going on with the alliance in Vienna. Any updates there?

Unknown Speaker 41:07

Unknown Speaker 41:10
Sorry, you’re probably in two meetings.

Unknown Speaker 41:12
Yeah, I am. Sorry about that.

Unknown Speaker 41:16
I just had to change headphones.

Unknown Speaker 41:20
So, yeah, about the lines in the piano, any updates from this?

Unknown Speaker 41:25
And I was watching Gary Hill, because he’s in the other meeting when you were talking about the current Congress. I can’t get his attention because if he wants to send it, so the the, I suppose the coalition in Vienna has its annual general meeting, they’re going to do that to coincide with the meeting on corruption that’s coming up shortly. And they are going to have the elections for the positions that they vacant and administrative Lee they’ve been working towards recruitment. And there are a number of NGOs or individuals who have applied for membership. In fact, in the last week or so, we have approved a one half thousand organizations to join. But it’s still not the number that the Alliance used to have when it was

Unknown Speaker 42:30
be right at home.

Unknown Speaker 42:34
And in terms of activities that they’ve been promoting very much some of the work that’s been done by the faith based coalition and the webinars and they’ve been increasingly forging their relationship with the UN ODC around how they will communicate how they disseminate information, and out and about So really, at this stage, much of what they’re doing is, is still administrative and structural and getting themselves into the right position and try and have both in terms of the Austrian law, un practices and principles and, and making sure that people understand who they are and how they fit in the scheme of things in in Vienna, now’s a good time to be doing that because everything is really behind senate buildings close so things having to be done electronically. So I really don’t have very much more to add. I sit in in a meetings and the meeting agenda is Hello, how are you? Is the applications. He is right. He’s the new bylaws and we move on it is very much administrative.

Unknown Speaker 43:56
Thank you know, just just good to know

Unknown Speaker 44:00
I have a website too, that they are heavily promoting. And

Unknown Speaker 44:07
they are they use our old logo?

Unknown Speaker 44:12
Yes, they

Unknown Speaker 44:15
would have been nice if they’d asked me permission to use it, but

Unknown Speaker 44:20
well, they they go. I Well, actually, it gets a little bit confusing now. Because when you type in NGO Alliance choosing Google,

Unknown Speaker 44:30
depending on

Unknown Speaker 44:32
how you phrase it, is sometimes they their web page comes up before you’re in the assembly alliance that you coordinate, and then vice versa.

Unknown Speaker 44:46

Unknown Speaker 44:49
And hopefully, the confusing. Yeah, well, it and I guess it never used to be confusing because there was only one website and we were we were Under the previous structure, Michael and I pretty much collaborated all the time. And unfortunately, the process of trying to create one Alliance ended up splitting a small heavily, which was unfortunate. But hopefully this is a, you know, it’s a time when, you know, eventually we can end up because it’s just such a waste of effort to have two organizations when we need to function globally. Anyway, but there we go. So for now, because we, you know, we still got folks that do also identify a lot with UN headquarters. And the work is not just at UN headquarters is not just through un ODC but it deals with terrorism. And so you’ve got, you know, the sea Ted and you’ve got all of the, you know, the CDC and all kinds of other groups, relevant parts of the US In New York, that are that NGOs are active with and through. So it’s it’s some of them are actually more interested in the New York side of things than in the UFO DC side of things. So there’s just all of these pieces that make it a little bit complicated and there was always an alliance in New York. And then when you and ODC moved to Vienna, then it was very natural for an alliance to grow up in Vienna also. So there just were it’s become complex. And where I foresaw the complexity was when when we all go online, that’s when it gets complex. When we’re just sitting in our rooms and meeting in the in the church center or in Vienna. It’s not complicated, because who can get there? That’s that’s what mattered. But then the minute you go online, then you’ve got all of these other dimensions of complexity that the We couldn’t have conversations about before, unfortunately. So we’re still sorting ourselves out. But on that front part of part of what I did want to note, and I think you’ve seen it in the agenda that we will be, the New York alliance will be having also its elections, and they’re coming up early in the next year. So the milestones are next month, we’re going to be sending out a call for nominations. And for any of the positions of the Alliance, we will continue to be working through we mostly have just one Working Group at the moment. And once upon a time the working groups would, would be on separate days or either after or before the meetings, but somehow they have ended up overlapping with with our main meetings. So that’s a complication too, but So working party working parties working groups can always form they will form and they will form and then they complete their work and then they usually cease to function after a while they report is completed or the talk the task is done, according to whatever the the the concept note was for that working group. But those are the options for our our members is to form Alliance working groups. Now, I did have an I need to read this

Unknown Speaker 48:42
from Lo, Adam, a damaged shoe.

Unknown Speaker 48:47
She said

Unknown Speaker 48:51
she trusts that we’re all well looking forward to today’s meetings, but she’s in Ethiopia and her internet is not Always good and acceptable. She, you know, so often has to go to a coffee shop or somewhere else to try to get access to the internet. But she is interested in raising the issue with the alliance of having representative offices in other regions, which is something that we have played with not done very effectively. But we have as that was one of the agenda items that I had had a couple of years ago before we then tried to form our one organization, and then to have regional representatives who would then have their own meetings. So like, there could be an African region or an Eastern European or, you know, a chair for those regional areas of the Alliance. So she is still wanting to be able to do that. I guess you No part of it is when people take on that as almost as a working group as an ongoing Working Group, maybe more of a permanent working group for the Alliance, regional then then those, those positions could be taken up, that they would then report back to the Alliance, what is going on there? Because I coming back to it, I think the the potency of the Alliance now there is there’s of course always just getting that information out from you and ODC or hearing from one another about what’s going on in the different parts of the UN. No one person even in the UN knows all about the UN and everything that’s going on. So we all rely on hearing the tidbits the you know, who’s doing what, where and if that’s of interest to us. So the UN is a very complex entity, and especially for those who you know, who are not used to it, who have have worked around it and who don’t, don’t, you know, understand the way you know the machinations of it work. So the the importance of the alliances that it creates a place where people can come hang out, learn, observe, get a better handle on how the UN works, hopefully, but also then stay connected with what’s going on with you and ODC what are some relevant topics that are going on in UN headquarters on issues that that different NGOs are interested in. So it’s really almost its value is in in its networking capacity and its ability to connect and interconnect people and provide NGOs who have an interest in these areas to occasionally meet, to connect. And then you know, to have a place where you know, there are peers who are having the same many times the same challenges or whatever. can share together the victories and the you know, the accomplishments. Because when, as Karen mentioned, when you can’t meet and you can’t you lose touch, you lose momentum, and then you you wonder what’s going to happen. So even just having a regular meeting place to come, I think is important. So as we move forward, you know, whether we be the alliance in New York, and we reach out to Ethiopia and Nigeria and Eastern Europe and Asia, or, or whatever we are, I think in the end our capacity and now interest in networking, connecting and supporting one another is really a critical piece that we add. It gives us ways to share our knowledge also, but very importantly, to have people to connect to so Lola is asking and So I’m putting this out there as something to be considered as we move forward. And perhaps in the coal for nominations, we might even think about asking if there are people who would like to develop regional groupings to network to create, you know, again, just opportunities to meet and to talk. And then to bring those connections back to be the general energy, the general Alliance meeting. Any comments and thoughts on on that that law is proposing?

Unknown Speaker 53:45
No, grouping will be great. It makes it possible to reach all the nooks and crannies and be able to address things in real time on become more practical, trying to piggyback on what I’ve been able to stay talking about the webinar on corruption and everything. When you look at it from afar. There’s corruption when you go in this also corruption. However, what are we doing to our threats?

Unknown Speaker 54:19

Unknown Speaker 54:22
of all the amount and everything being pumped into developing country, yet they are still developing. They’re not to the extent where they should be because we focus on building individuals rather than strong institutions, I guess went back to the Alliance web site. And so one of the patient is to Pew peace, justice and institution. So creating strong institutions are like the original bodies and empowering them, giving them The tools that will help them address some of those issues germane to their own culture would help a lot in addressing most many of these things be corruption, be peace, be reconsideration, because we’re addressing cultural issues. And who better understand that cultural issue then an Ethiopian, who would be able to give report based on what’s going on in Ethiopia, back to Vienna, in Zambia, Ambien, who will be able to say, Okay, these are the things these are the root causes. These are things that we can do to our dressing, and bring that report back to Vienna, and then put all these things together, send them back the tools that is needed to address those things. So I do believe that creating those Regional Offices would go a long way in helping solve, you know some of these issues from a grassroot standpoint, from their own standpoint, because one of the things that our organization has decided to do, it’s not really solving the problem giving people the ability to solve their own problems. Because when you give them the ability, you give them the empowerment, they see what you do not see and be able to address the things that you will not be able to address in real time because they are part of it. And they can speak to each other and say, Yes, we did. And they only they become stakeholders, you know, they were in the protected and it grows that way. So I do support that and whatever we can do to help develop that regional participation. We’ll be very glad to do that.

Unknown Speaker 57:02
Wonderful. I think

Unknown Speaker 57:09
I also support that idea of having regional chapters or regional offices of the organization.

Unknown Speaker 57:22
I’ve actually picked kickass cake sausage with I’m having an office in Nairobi, Kenya.

Unknown Speaker 57:29
I’m actually collaborating with Kenyan NGO. They’re the lawyers there. I also have an initiative in Kenya need to be a very good idea because Kenya is a very interesting country. He has various UN agencies there. And as defined, he said, It is good to let the NGOs the grassroots level, let them have a sense of ownership because we really can’t speak on behalf of them. You know, you really can’t speak on behalf of African NGOs. If I may refer to Agenda 2063 talks of the Africa we want, we cannot be sitting here in in New York in the United States and speaking on behalf of but

Unknown Speaker 58:17
the same applies for the Caribbean.

Unknown Speaker 58:22
I know some NGOs that we could we could take salt have a chapter there or different section there in the Caribbean, because, again, you cannot we cannot be sitting here in the United States or in London. You know, me speaking on behalf of of people. Take for example, II feel pure. You said somebody sent you an email from Ethiopia. I know exactly what is going on in Ethiopia. The internet’s have been deliberately knocked down because of the civil unrest. I’ve not been able to get hold of a UN Ambassador who is supposed to speak on my panel discussion. We will introduce Money call them for two months and he got back to me. He’s at the African Union, the internet connection was was shut down. You know, because of this, the problems going on in the country, which people are not really aware of. So basically, it’s good for grassroot level NGOs to, to take ownership. You know, I think going

Unknown Speaker 59:24
on, on that one, what I was thinking as afonya, and you just kind of a no, I come down to pragmatics and internet pragmatics that, it seems to me that it’s good, especially for the Alliance for the coordinator of that regional, to be someone familiar with the Alliance, at least know somewhat so like it would be better and we’ve got more people in the Alliance than than who are here, right now who are familiar with the Alliance, but the They would almost moderate just online meetings but focused on on those regional and then maybe their role would also be to facilitate, you know, outreach to, to those so that they could get more people to have relevant discussions for the region. So

Unknown Speaker 1:00:19
I’m not sure that having something at this stage in any particular country Hmm,

Unknown Speaker 1:00:28
but let me share something with you in that regard as we go

Unknown Speaker 1:00:32
anyway. But this is all just

Unknown Speaker 1:00:34
yeah. Now someone in need topia. So one in Nigeria, right. Number one, they do not have constant electricity. Right? True. They struggling with Telecom. Now, Nigeria is doing better in terms of internet connectivity. It might not be very, very steady and the person who has the passion to do These may not have the where we buy the data to be able to connect, because the bandwidth, you know, they could buy X amount of thing and before you know it within three, four minutes is up, and they are struggling with that, they will not tell you that they will not come up and say I don’t have the resources to be able to connect. But I really want to do these. So what they’re looking for is train me, give me a little bit something that can get me set up. So I’ll be able to be effective and efficient in reaching the goals and the objectives of this particular thing. They are hungry, but the only thing is there’s no Lifeline and reach to connect them to where they can start this by their knowledge and be able to execute On Fortunately, most NGOs like the UN ODC would go talk to the people who already have the haves and then address some of the issues and come up with certain things, the effects of corruption but the people who are really leaving with these that will really want to do the work are being neglected because they are have no qualifications so to say, they don’t talk like you and I, they don’t have what you and I have these guys was taught by the fancy offices and that is the only area they get to and not beyond that. So if possible, who cannot be possible for me to be here? Okay, you want to be able to coordinate these you need to be able to go to the internet. have feet to rent a computer that has these things, how much does that cost? Let’s assume it costs 510 dollars, okay, we’ll try to give you something to offset that. So you’ll be able to learn as much as you can to be able to take it back to your lead to community and be able to report back. So some of those things which you actually want to address in the training session that you’re putting together, which is great. So that may also help address and teach them how to access and collaborate with partners that are willing to work with them to get some of this data in real time to the right people that actually need this. the right people that need the intervention and the knowledge

Unknown Speaker 1:03:54
so that I mean in that sense,

Unknown Speaker 1:03:58
the the Alliance would stop and take Call us a slightly additional element of of I would have to say of activism and not not just communication and networking. I’m not saying that that that’s not a bad thing. I’m just putting that out there for

Unknown Speaker 1:04:19
you again.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:22
input from others thoughts.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:28
J Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:31
Yeah, just one thing that that’s happening now that I think is quite relevant to what it finally was, was saying is that just in the past year while it was late 2018 the UN nations agreed on a peer review mechanism for the implementation of the UN Convention against transnational organized crime and What this means is that that convention which deals with, you know, human trafficking, and migrant smuggling and arms trafficking, as well as the traditional organized crime of offenses of, you know, criminal Association, and conspiracy, and so forth. That that is a binding convention that’s been around for what, 15 years at this point, almost every country on the planet has ratified. But some countries have been slower than others on on actual implementation, for example, part of it is when you’re ratifying country, you have to have specific laws against human trafficking. And many, many countries, the vast majority do have that now. So there has been a whole change in in consensus in terms of what’s serious, what requires attention. The problem is, are you making any human trafficking cases, you know, where the rubber meets the road or their actual prosecution The convention specific specifies you’re supposed to be protecting victims as well. What exactly is is the country doing in that regard? anyway? These are the kinds of questions that will be asked. And the UN has set up a peer review mechanism where two or three other countries will go into the other country, do some on site review, all that kind of thing. Anyway, to the UN’s credit, they’ve decided that, you know, civil society, which is basically NGOs, academics, the private sector, they should have a voice in this in this process. I don’t know where this comes from. Perhaps. You know, maybe they’re concerned that representatives of member states won’t provide the whole story. But for example, if if there’s an issue raised Okay, well, what are you doing to protect Let’s say witnesses and organized crime cases or human trafficking victims are thing. All of these things are in the convention. Obviously, people in the NGO and civil society community would have first hand knowledge of what is going on. So anyway, they have developed. So this peer review mechanism is going to be talked about in this conference that Michael mentioned in October, which is the Conference of the Parties to the UN crime convention on on transnational organized crime.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:37
And what what’s gonna happen with that

Unknown Speaker 1:07:41
is they’re gonna talk something, you know, a lot of specifics at that meeting in terms of how it will happen, how you select countries to go first and all this sort of thing. But the important thing is building a voice for civil society in what can be a process just among member states. So within The UN Office on Drugs and Crime, there is a civil society team. Billy bat, where’s the main contact there? He’s a great guy. But the whole group there, and they have started international trainings of people in civil society that you were I anyway, the first one that dealt with training for people in the US, and all the Americas, basically, in North America and South America and Central America. That training was held about two weeks ago. So I went to that one. The next one is Europe and Africa.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:37
And I will post a link that’s happening in mid September.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:42
But you can actually apply to be part of that training. It’s an online training now because I can travel there in the past, they would travel. But I will post the link to what they’re doing in the link to the published, you know, toolkit. So 40 or 50 page thing that sort of lays it all out. But for me, I’m, I’m excited about it, because to the UN’s credit, it’s an explicit recognition that members of civil society have information that’s relevant to assessing implementation of a UN Convention. And you don’t want to leave this discussion, just two representatives from member states. So I’m kind of excited about it, because it shows explicitly the kinds of things that define him and others have talked about and that as well. What are you doing to empower people to have a say in in the process, so anyway, I will post those links right now and you could look them up at your leisure or, and feel free to forward them to anyone else, you know,

Unknown Speaker 1:09:52
maybe what if I might ask, because we’re still you know, this, this is all exploratory discussion. We you know, our colva nominations is not, you know, for another another month and you know, there is, of course, in these Cova times we have all kinds of flexibility. But perhaps what I might ask Jay is during the next Alliance meeting, that you walk everybody through against specifically on this topic, what you learned from from going through that training, because our next meeting in September is going to be when is that it’s probably going to be around about the same time as the next workshop is happening.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:40
September 11, that’s a good Friday.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:45
date of the European one did you say again, Jay, what?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:50
September 15 to 17th for Europe and Africa.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:55
Anyway, even to

Unknown Speaker 1:10:58
a I don’t know whether there’s going to be a cutoff point for people to sign up and register. But even so, for you to give a, you know, just a brief review of what you learned and the importance of it, because I think as you, as you noted, and more than I recognized, there could be such a perfect sweet spot amongst a number of regional parts of activity of the Alliance. The Alliance could be the regional coalescer for some of these civil society actors who could then help become more of a nope provide the the civil society support for this initiative. And it is, as you say, that’s what the UN is doing. That’s kind of the it almost seems like it’s done a U turn in terms of the direction of involvement of civil society rather than the direction by and large is being to marginalize not to include so radically so that’s exciting news.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:59
Yeah. Yes, it is I and I think it’s important that, you know, you know, governments, I mean, don’t forget the UN is an organization of governments, right? representatives from all from 193 member states, which is pretty much the whole planet. But the positive side of this is that explicit recognition that there are other constituencies around the globe that have voices and information that need to be heard, that the UN is not always hearing from the incentives of member states. So they’re trying to create a channel to help train people. These are mechanisms we’re building now, you know, for you to to have a say in the celebration. So to me, it’s it’s it’s a very positive development.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:51
Wonderful. I also I just see that that is such an important place that regional Alliance representative could help facilitate a the understanding of what is needed to be able to do that work. Because always there’s there’s the, we have to know that these opportunities exist, we have to know how to work with them. And then we also have to do the work on the civil society side to connect, to educate, and then to be usefully involved and not just listening. So I think that that’s a role that that, that the Alliance can help facilitate, in a way, so thank you very much for that. So this kind of networking is just one part to me part of the value of the Alliance.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:48
Right. And just one quick note, the reason why they’re dividing it up among regions of the world is only because of the timezone problem. So that’s, so they did the Americas first. Now they’re doing an Africa I’m gonna go and do a couple in Asia because they can’t travel there. So they have to write separate loud by timezone.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:08
Yeah. Now thank you very much for that we had promoted let people know about the training, but as with most things, unless you translate it and give it meaning, in other words, yes, you say, Well, yes, there’s this training but what this training can do for you and what it means and what it will, you know, it’ll help you understand, you know, and that’s the piece that was missing.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:32
You you added that point, Jay, thank you very much.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:38
So would you be okay next time to give a quick review.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:45
Just highlight some of the even reiterate this again next and we can let people know that that’s what will be part of the the next Alliance meeting. Historically, the Alliance has often had a keynote speakers or speakers During during its meeting, so we would like to invite you to do that.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:05
Sure, but maybe we’re talking five or 10 minutes, nothing.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:08
Yeah, whatever.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:10
Yeah, too dramatic,

Unknown Speaker 1:15:12
no, nothing, nothing too dramatic. And we can refer people to the actual training itself. But I think giving people the understanding, contextualizing it, so that they understand the value of the training, and therefore in also that that’s something that can have meaning also to Alliance, the evolution of the Alliance itself, at least this part of the Alliance.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:36

Unknown Speaker 1:15:39
Any other comments at this stage?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:46
On that topic, I think, you know, we didn’t exactly resolve anything particularly but I think as we move toward our own elections, we can have people offered to take up roles. As regional representatives for the for the Alliance and what that will mean is that they can help facilitate meetings and trainings and or orientations, whatever is needed for, you know, regional actors and help them connect to, to the UN infrastructure because that’s one of the big challenges is for the small NGOs or the interested person to understand what it even means to be connected and to work with the UN that that is, it’s hard to find that kind of training and opportunity. Most people don’t hang on for long enough to learn. They come they observe the speaking a different language, and not quite sure how it pertains to their organization or whether there’s going to be any return on their own effort and time spent. So then they disappear again, but if there’s more of a place where we can help help people understand the significance of their contribution. And how to do that. I think that’s seems to me that’s part of the role of the Alliance. And so hopefully we can, we can contribute to that. So I mean, all of this is just leading up to the fact that we’ve got our schedule September, there’ll be the call for nominations. At that point, we’ll start to articulate nor identify who we want to be. You know, who we want to be actors in, in our organization will have some further discussions in September. There’s going to be October, of course, November is when the the online summit on domestic violence during COVID will take place. And I think that’s the 18th 19th, the 20th of November. I’ll be posting that information this week, this coming week, and so that will be available on on the web. The CPC j In December as we move toward our elections in January, we will continue to invite people to become members and we will we will probably continue with having individual members. organizational members organizational members can be representatives with ECOSOC status and they can be associated members that do not have ECOSOC status. So we still needing to understand who has ECOSOC status who does not have ECOSOC status whether you’re an individual way of representing an organization because as noted, you know, the UN is the preeminent International Organization for for countries for governments and non non governmental organizations have can have special status within that. within that structure. We’re still not members, we get to observe and participate, we can put things on the agenda if you have certain status. But there’s all kinds of hoops to jump through for all of that, as some, some known and some are learning. So even the Alliance needs to understand who its members are, what’s the scope of their work, and that kind of understanding of it’s a membership. January, we’re planning on having our elections. And at this stage I that’s covered. We’ve gone over the schedule there for as we look forward. And so now if anybody has any more news that that you would like to share. In terms of updates news, I think we’ll go Gee, do you have anything else to say?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:54
Oh, no, I don’t think so. I basically said,

Unknown Speaker 1:19:58
Yep. All right. passed on laws message Jennifer great. Didn’t didn’t quite make it today. Jay, do you have any additional information you want to share?

Unknown Speaker 1:20:16
We’re holding our breath.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:18
Mm hmm. He’s frozen.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:21
Yeah, he’s frozen all the way down in DC. I would have thought he would have thought out by now.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:28
Okay. J anyway, I don’t know whether you can hear me but you seem to have frozen on the screen. You’ve been coming in and out all morning. I hope you’re feeling Michael’s gone. Yeah. Michael has gone. He maybe went to sleep or went into the other meeting. So I think he may be set at any afonya Do you have anything else you would like to add?

Unknown Speaker 1:20:52
Mommy? Okay,

Unknown Speaker 1:20:55
Karen, do you have anything else you would like to add comments from listening or fort’s very good information here. And I thank you very much. I thank you all very much. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, thanks for joining us. We love to see new faces. They like old ones to Jay, you’ve come back, dude. Sorry. Did you have anything you froze for a moment?

Unknown Speaker 1:21:16
I have to start paying my internet bill on time or something.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:21
Now, just a

Unknown Speaker 1:21:23
very quick thing about the UN crime Congress. It’s been rescheduled for March of 2021. Yeah, it’s, it’s in Japan, they move it around the world. Every five years. I’ve been to a few of them. But they’re To me, it’s, it’s if you can go to one meet un meeting. That’s the one with more than 5000 people, everybody connected with crime or justice NGOs. You know, national representatives. It’s there you get a good sense of what is you know, the global body of people who are interested in crime prevention and criminal justice. The other ones there. Now, again, we don’t know we’re at sort of the mercy of the pandemic. So we don’t know what’s going to happen by then. But I’m hopeful that 2021 brings better things we’ll see.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:13
Right. And so, yeah, that is that is scheduled for March 20. Whatever dates I looked at, I pulled it up before and then. Okay, yeah, so seven through the 12th of March 2021. I don’t know whether I don’t know how the process Gary probably will have some information on that at some stage but I don’t know whether people will have to re register and all of that sort of stuff. Those who are going before but I also second what Jay said it is quite, quite quite a thing. You know, last time I was working on bringing some, some tech folk to the Alliance because a lot of the VR that is evolving the virtual reality. There’s some exceptionally good ways to train whether it be police, emergency workers, all different kinds of things where where technical knowledge is needed. VR is a very it can massively shorten the learning curve. And so it’s I’m always interested in the in the tech, the emerging tech and how it can impact and help move the needle forward for crime prevention and criminal justice. So anyway, um, I don’t know what I’m going to be able to read gather that group of people or not, but we’ll see.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:44
So if anybody else has anything else, I If not,

Unknown Speaker 1:23:50
I would like to say thank you so much for you for taking your time. We always love to have this hour, hour and a half with everybody. I look forward to seeing you again next month. Don’t forget to invite your friends to come join you and network and help connect one another to others and support one another in all of this work. Thank you very much.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:12
Thank you.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:13
Yep, bye

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Alliance Business

  1. Introductions: Around the room 
  2. UN Updates
  3. NY Alliance Working Groups
    • Working Group on COVID and Domestic Violence (Yael Danieli, Chair of the Working Group)
  4. Upcoming 2020 Alliance Milestones
    • September:  Call for Nominations
    • October: Ongoing Work
    • November: Online Summit on Domestic Violence During COVID
      and Presentation of the Slate of Candidates for the Alliance Board
    • December: Membership Drive:
    • January 2021 Elections
  5. News from Members 
  6. Next Meeting 2nd Friday of the month: September 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM.